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[TiFeMb]

This song popped in my head: Van Halen's "Hot for Teacher". The line where Dave says "I brought my pencil, why dontcha give me something to write on!".   

[Amidala]

Here is an article about tenure - at the college/uni level - and this is what drives me nuts; it is one of the things that makes post-secondary education so d*mn expensive.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/05/books/review/Shea-t.html?scp=1&sq=tenure&st=cse

[Kimmi]

Hey it's your time, Life.  Seems like much ado about nothing to me - but whatever floats your boat.

Amen sister!!  Sorry Life but people like you who just can't follow simple instructions and have to ask WHY all the time irritate me to know end.  Just sign the damn paper and make sure your kid has a freaking pencil!!  If he gets detention for not having it 3 or 4 times, well at least you can't go in and bitch because you didn't know it was a serious responsibility! 

If your 19 is such a grown up, why not get his GED and go be a man and work? 

[CindyLouWho]

 

[Kimmi]

Sorry to confuse you.  I just can't stand to hear a story that teeters on both sides of the fence.  In one sentence you have a 19 year old who is responsible for himself, and then he is living at home and going to school which means he is the responsibility of others ie: parents, teachers, administration, bus drivers, cafeteria workers...

So which is it?  Be a man and finish school early and go work, or be a student and enjoy only having go to class, bring your pencil, and do your homework as your responsibility.

[Kimmi]

11 rules your kids did not and will not learn in school

Rule 1: Life is not fair - get used to it!

Rule 2: The world doesn't care about your self-esteem. The world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself.

Rule 3: You will NOT make $60,000 a year right out of high school. You won't be a vice-president with a car phone until you earn both.

Rule 4: If you think your teacher is tough, wait till you get a boss.

Rule 5: Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your Grandparents had a different word for burger flipping: they called it opportunity.

Rule 6: If you mess up, it's not your parents' fault, so don't whine about your mistakes, learn from them.

Rule 7: Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they are now. They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes and listening to you talk about how cool you thought you were. So before you save the rain forest from the parasites of your parent's generation, try delousing the closet in your own room.

Rule 8: Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life HAS NOT. In some schools, they have abolished failing grades and they'll give you as MANY TIMES as you want to get the right answer. This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life.

Rule 9: Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off and very few employers are interested in helping you FIND YOURSELF. Do that on your own time.

Rule 10: Television is NOT real life. In real life people actually have to leave the coffee shop and go to jobs.

Rule 11: Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.

[TiFeMb]

Wow Kimmi...and I was going to make a smart comment about not dating anyone because they DO consider you an adult in that instance.
 
Not a fair policy I might add    I turned 18 my senior year and had to break up with a VERY nice girlfriend who just happened to be a mature sophomore.
 
*sort of hijack end*

[lifefeedsonlife]

Hey it's your time, Life.  Seems like much ado about nothing to me - but whatever floats your boat.

Amen sister!!  Sorry Life but people like you who just can't follow simple instructions and have to ask WHY all the time irritate me to know end.  Just sign the damn paper and make sure your kid has a freaking pencil!!  If he gets detention for not having it 3 or 4 times, well at least you can't go in and bitch because you didn't know it was a serious responsibility! 

If your 19 is such a grown up, why not get his GED and go be a man and work? 

Well - there aren't really a whole lot of folks "like me" nor would I suspect there are too many folks like any of us here . . . and questioning why isn't a bad thing. In fact - I find it to be one of the more important things a person can do with their time. It's not something I'd do on a whim nor take lightly if I felt is deserved some attention.

I know you're not one to make such blanket statements about a person a habit so I ain't insulted or nothin' by it.

I'm not the kind of person who'd bitch about my kid getting detention if my kid shirked on a responsibility that rested on their shoulders. I mean - detention is detention for a reason - yes? As long as the 'why' isn't some arbitrary thing, detention serves a purpose.

The reason my son doesn't get his GED has a lot to do with his history. (We'd considered it as an option but it's not a good one.) He was born in Russia and was placed in an orphanage there when he was two days old and wasn't adopted by us till he was 7. He was placed in an orphange because the collective Russian societal thought doesn't look kindly on physcial disablitlies - and many kids are made wards of the State there rather than being raised in their familes.

We adopted him because kids with disabilites die in that system. (You know the single starfish thrown in the ocean idea?) I suppose some it was some sort pf redemptive idea at the time as I was a profligate youth and I'd like to do some worthwhile things with the rest of the time I've got here.

The orphanage circumstance created some neurological developmental problems that took a while to sort out and that probably aren't "correctible" anymore as his wiring is pretty set at this age. Aside from his physical issues - he has Sensory Integration 'Disorder.' (I'm not a fan of "disorders" and I prefer the term "issues.") As a result of this - he has a hell of a time with tests as the written word doesn't always translate well for him into something meaningful . . . so a G.E.D. probabaly won't work.

He does much better with visual learning and verbal instructions - so - finishing 'traditional' school is his best option for success at this point. He's had the fortitude to stick it out thus far and has done well with the abilities he possesses. He won't ever be a star athlete nor a rocket scientist - but his efforts toward achieving something he finds desirable are a thing of admiration. 

As it stands - we seem to have worked out a compromise through some discussion and deliberation and are willing to provide the school with what  they "need" yet still preserve his adult status. At least that's what we hope to accomplish.

He's a very responsible and forthright young man whom I am very proud of. (Ami can attest to this somewhat as she's met him and her husband knows him.) As a Dad - I just help him as best I can . . . which includes the questioning of authority . . . even my own . . . . 

[Kimmi]

Wow Kimmi...and I was going to make a smart comment about not dating anyone because they DO consider you an adult in that instance.
 
Not a fair policy I might add     I turned 18 my senior year and had to break up with a VERY nice girlfriend who just happened to be a mature sophomore.
 
*sort of hijack end*

haha You don't have to break up if you are JUST dating!! 

[Puffin]

Ok Life I got it now. Keep it up.

[Kimmi]

I think if more people were to change their attitude about number 5, our unemployment rate would not be nearly as poor as it is now.

Rule 5: Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your Grandparents had a different word for burger flipping: they called it opportunity.

[TiFeMb]

I proudly worked at the McDonalds in Meadville for 3 years! Before the drive thru!
 
So true Kimmi, but I have to tell you, I wouldn't have lasted a day in your class, you're TOUGH!! I was too much of a cut up.

[lifefeedsonlife]

My 19 year old works part time as a burger flipper. He's savin' for a car.

[NightmarePatrol]

I mowed grass, lots of it... about 40 acres a day.

[precisionpest]

worked at k-mart in high school, sporting goods! cool!

worked at sears in college, tool department!! double cool!!!