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[Amidala]

And it's another beautiful day in the neighborhood...

[lifefeedsonlife]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/03/white-house-withdraws-students-help-obama/
 

"President Obama's plan to inspire the nation's schoolchildren with a video address next week erupted into controversy Wednesday, forcing the White House to pull out its eraser and rewrite a government recommendation that teachers nationwide assign students a paper on how to "help the president," the Washington Times reported.
 
Presidential aides acknowledged the White House helped the U.S. Education Department craft the proposal, which immediately was met by fierce criticism from Republicans and conservative organizations who accused Obama of trying to politicize the education system.
 
White House aides said the language was an honest misunderstanding in what was supposed to be a inspirational, pro-education message to America's youths.
 
Among the activities the government initially suggested for prekindergarten to sixth-grade students: that they "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president."
 
Another task recommended for students immediately after listening to the speech: to engage in a discussion about what "the president wants us to do."

 
Yeah . . . they backed off that real quick, especially in light of some of the things that Bill Ayers (and Mr. Obama himself) have said and been involved with in the education system in years past. They WANT to politicize it.
 

the two “worked as a team to advance the CAC agenda,” which “flowed from Mr. Ayers’s educational philosophy, which called for infusing students and their parents with a radical political commitment, and which downplayed achievement tests in favor of activism.”

 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2008/09/23/barack-obama-bill-ayers-stanley-kurtz-makes-connection
 
In the past (as I said) I was attracted to radical political philosphy (must be the anarchist in me) and Bill Ayers is an individual I read about.
 
Do the American people really know the person they elected?

[lifefeedsonlife]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/02/wh-withdraws-call-students-help-obama/

The original Washington Times article. Inclusive of spin from both sides.

So - what do you all think?

[TiFeMb]

Were there any 'suggestions' for the kids or were they supposed to write whatever they thought? Although it seems like a feeble attempt to revive Camelot in the wake ofg Ted's death, I think engaging the youth of America could be a good thing.
 
Now if they are specifically indoctrinating them with left wing ideology, put on the brakes. I think the problem is that most kids DON'T have any idea how our government works.
 
Like when I ran for student council in the 3rd grade on the platform "Chocolate Milk in the Water Fountains".
 
I agree about Ayers though, I have been around academians for a long time & on top of being fiercely anti-religion, I think their moral compass is broken too.
 
Haven't past presidents done this sort of thing before? I am thinking Kennedy and Clinton.

[TiFeMb]

Not everyone was outraged by the president's decision to send a videotaped message to America's schoolchildren something President George H.W. Bush did 18 years ago, though without the accompanying homework.

Thanks. I agree with the comment about the shrill attacks. The right doesn't even hide it anymore. Please, they asked us for 8 years to 'get behind' the president even if we disagreed, and Rush/Hannity/Beck/Levin have eviscerated Obama since day 1. Real mature.
 
Let the kids do a civics paper. In school uniforms.   
 

[lifefeedsonlife]

[quote[] Let the kids do a civics paper. In school uniforms. [/quote]

That I'm cool with!

[Lifetime]

"Shrill Attacks" Good one... No one here perhaps remembers OLBERMANN, BILL MAHER, AL FRANKEN, MSNBC, AIR AMERICA... on and on and on.... EVISCERATION!!!!.. another good one. What is good about viewers of both sides.... maybe they should TURN OFF all those mentioned... but..... CHECK the ratings.... FOX has KILLED MSNBC and many others with the viewer numbers... Sit down take a breath and then honestly ask yourself why??? Air America has always gasped for the cash to keep it alive and the others have low numbers. WHO watches FOX??? Methinks almost EVERYONE.
 
Fact is ... liberal and even progressive doesn't sell as much as conservative and independent. Even Dobbs is doing great on CNN... Go figure.
 
 
 

Not everyone was outraged by the president's decision to send a videotaped message to America's schoolchildren something President George H.W. Bush did 18 years ago, though without the accompanying homework.

Thanks. I agree with the comment about the shrill attacks. The right doesn't even hide it anymore. Please, they asked us for 8 years to 'get behind' the president even if we disagreed, and Rush/Hannity/Beck/Levin have eviscerated Obama since day 1. Real mature.
 
Let the kids do a civics paper. In school uniforms. 

[TiFeMb]

OLBERMANN, BILL MAHER, AL FRANKEN, MSNBC, AIR AMERICA

I actually never watched them for more than a few minutes because it was just as you described, just attacking and sophomoric humor. I actually listened to Hannity/Beck/OReilly for a while (Rush & Levin are just paranoid fear-mongers)  until I just got tired of the same old "it's his / her fault and America should listen to ME".  :deadhorse: All the while hiding behind Reagan & the "conservative" flags, all the while doing the same thing as the Libs: COMPLAINING and not DOING.
 
Oh, yeah, Hannity has a cool little concert he manages. I liked the Jams they used to have in stadiums. Getting a lot of people together that think the same way.
 
I don't think ratings tell the story. If that mattered Michael Jackson would be president.  I prefer to get my news from multiple sources & triangulate the data to see if it's truthful. I didn't buy into global warming and I hate nancy pelosi, but that doesn't make me a republican: I liked what Kennedy did & I believed the democrats had a better platform this election. That doesn't make me a democrat: It makes me a voter that looked at the information presented & tried to make a choice not based on "ideology".
 
I didn't think Bush was that bad, at first. I think that Cheney was the puppeteer for a while and GW pushed back toward the end. I didn't agree with GW when he started all the stimulus and bailout madness, and I still don't agree with some of CONGRESS's decisions.
 
But we need to start making the right choice in our neighborhoods, cities, townships, counties & states and stop watching the talking nimrods on the boob toob.
 
Think positive, act responsibly & if you don't have anything good to say about someone, don't say it.
 
Wise words from many wise people in my past. I still struggle with that philosophy but I STILL TRY.
 
OLBERMANN, BILL MAHER, AL FRANKEN, MSNBC, AIR AMERICA Rush/Hannity/Beck/Levin/Oreilly 
 
Just turn 'em off & put on some classical music. Maybe some Neil Diamond.
Smile at the person in the car next to you.
Be the next cool coke commercial & make the world smile.
 
Be a Sparkle Pony in someones life, create some rainbows.

[bighair80s]

re: talking heads

maybe the "emperor has no clothes"  (or is walking around in his skivvies at very best)  and belittlement of the folks or talking heads that point it out really does not do much to  put clothes on the emperors  back..  know what i mean?

re: rainbows and ponies lol

hermitage, tifemb has a long standing tradition of producing rainbows and ponies on this board. it is his stress reliever. (long story from nearly the inception of this board when there was just  a few of us) heck, he even threw in a few unicorns once. some of us cant see them, and some do apparently.  for tife's sake ive tried but come up blind to them,  lol  (love ya tife, you know i do) 

[TiFeMb]

  ...and belittlement of the folks or talking heads that point it out really does not do much to  put clothes on the emperors  back.. 

 
BH: Once again you crystalized my thoughts exactly.
 

Yep that will do it! That will take care of everything!

 
But the outlook on life can take of SOMETHING and that's what I'm trying to say.
 
Off to help people get in better shape!
 

[bighair80s]

hermitage, maybe you missed my intended point. i was explaining in a very nice way that i "dont see tife's ponies", he and i do not agree most times on political matters. i was merely explaining how we use humor and metaphor between us to diffuse things. 

if you do a search on the board about ponies and rainbows you will see what i am talking about. i guess i was more trying to finesse tife's style to you. i apologize. i have communicated with tife for two years on this board and we have developed a re-pore about our differences.  , i hoped to convey what a decent guy tife is and yes he probably does have differing views than you, he has  differing ones than i do but we have learned how to work with it. i just wanted to expalin the rainbows and ponies thing, i meant no disrespect to you  or your point.

i apologize to all involved.  either i am totally inept at explaining myself or my posts are being  interpreted completely at will. 


 

 

[bighair80s]

its all cool hermitage.  see, now we have a metaphor too. pink elephants. lol

i really do love tife and his family, a good guy. 

[NightmarePatrol]

I haven't seen the sparkle ponies OR pink elephants since 1985, but my life was much different then. 

[lifefeedsonlife]

Thing is - when I was 'old enough' to have some fairly well formed political opinions, I did not like Carter, nor any other President that followed. None of 'em. Not Reagan, H.W., Clintom nor W. I didn't like Reagan cuz I was really into Abby Hoffman and the Chicago Seven at the time. (Had a copy of the Anarchist's Cookbook to boot - though I didn't steal it - it was more an affectation than anything.) Didn't like H.W. cuz of his career politician status and privilege. Didn't like Clinton because he was too prgressive and downright smug. (Thought Perot woulda been cool - save for the paranoia.) Didn't like W. cuz quite frankly - he was dumb. Woulda been like voting for one of my dopier Fraternity Brothers.

I don't like Obama for a much different reason. I don't like the company he's conspicuously kept and the "ideas" behind his governance.

Social Justice by their definition is an oxymoron.

I'm a social worker by trade - and I don't buy what they're selling . . . not one iota . . . .

[bighair80s]

life, what is your opinion of william f. buckley. would you respect his intellect in regard to political thought?