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Fake turf proposed for Hickory HS
« on: December 16, 2009, 11:51:07 PM »
http://www.sharonherald.com/sports/local_story_349193554.html

I'm surprised no one has commented on this so far: The renewed interest in a proposal to put artificial turf on the Hickory HS field.

The problem comes because -- for reasons never fully explained -- hickory has 2-3x more events on its football field than any other similar-sized schools in the area. So the grass gets pretty beat after a while.

Proponents claim it now costs $30-$40K a year to to maintain the existing grassy mud flats, which suffers from overuse and poor drainage (though no one seems to be talking about repairing the drainage). Fake turf would only cost $5,000 a year to maintain (what, to vacuum?).

Oh, sure, it would cost $865,000 to install, a professional installer says. But the committee is convinced they can get it installed for $650,000 (no doubt by someone's brother-in-law who does carpeting on the weekends).

Oh, and it wears out after 10 years and would need to be replaced. So that's $5,000 maintenance plus an annual depreciation of $65,000 to $86,500 -- a total cost $71,000 to $91,500 in today's dollars, vs. $30,000 to $40,000 for grass. And that's assuming it's costs the same price a decade from now. When this last came up about 5 yrs ago, it would have cost $500,000 and grass maintenance was listed at the same $40,000 a year. So turf went up more than 50% but grass maintenance cost no more.

But the fundraising committee thinks they can put their hands on $100,000 like that. ("Snap!"). Which would make the annual cost only about one and a half times as expensive as grass. Forever. And they hope the city will waive some permit fees and devote some of its manpower to engineering. Well, that'll cut the cost to nothing in no time.

Then there's the trauma of midget football sometimes having to be moved several hundred feet away to the Rodney White Olympic Park -- a "heavily used" field that itself will soon need extensive repairs. At whose expense?

My take on the fake turf as a city taxpayer: The need seems to be there, but the cost is unreasonable unless supporters can raise a large chunk of it privately AND guarantee to do the same in a decade when it wears out. The private money figure being tossed about barely makes a dent, and committing to the project is perpetually committing to 2 or more times the current cost.

Oddly, no other neighboring schools are beating the drum for fake turf, even the ones with championship teams. Then again, as soon as one gets it, the others will have to have it, too. And thus, ever 5 miles we'll have a separate school district with a separate, newly renovated h.s. with fancy fake turf. And so it goes.
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Re: Fake turf proposed for Hickory HS
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2010, 06:11:04 PM »
http://www.hickory-afieldforall.com/
 
Some of the "Testimonials" seem a bit sketchy...
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Re: Fake turf proposed for Hickory HS
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2010, 09:38:09 PM »
The financials are vague, too.

Even though it has come out at school board meetings that the estimate cost is around $850,000 and there is a need to replace every 10 yrs, the only number they focus on is the one-time $150,000 goal for pledges -- as if the rest of the money now and in the future, like a lot of other issues, are up to the school board (and taxpayers)
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Re: Fake turf proposed for Hickory HS
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2010, 11:13:00 AM »
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Re: Fake turf proposed for Hickory HS
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2010, 01:32:18 PM »
And the boosters who boasted they could come up with $150,000 by the deadline two weeks ago have only raised $60,000, a measly 7.5 percent of the cost... not more than a rounding error in the total contract.

"Oh," they cried, "but no one would give to us till they knew the project was a 'go' "

Yeah, and who's gonna open their wallet give another cent when the district's business manager says "This won't cost taxpayers anything new. We can just tap into our $5.5 million budgetary reserve."

Hope there's plenty of reserve left when the state pension-funding day of reckoning comes around in another year or two and school districts may be ordered to come up with 7 figures to make the fund sound again.

Now, on to the next valley school district that will fund turf so they'll all be equally overbuilt and freshly remodeled in  buildings and grounds while student population continues to drop and consolidation makes more and more sense.



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Re: Fake turf proposed for Hickory HS
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2010, 02:34:26 PM »

Yeah, and who's gonna open their wallet give another cent when the district's business manager says "This won't cost taxpayers anything new. We can just tap into our $5.5 million budgetary reserve."

Funny (not really) how there is even such a large budgetary "reserve" in the first place. Just tells me that someone was overtaxing the minions to begin with. >:(
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Re: Fake turf proposed for Hickory HS
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2010, 02:53:53 PM »
Now, on to the next valley school district that will fund turf so they'll all be equally overbuilt and freshly remodeled in  buildings and grounds while student population continues to drop and consolidation makes more and more sense.

Check today's Herald editorial page for some exciting "historical fiction" on that subject!
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Re: Fake turf proposed for Hickory HS
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2010, 04:46:43 PM »
Funny (not really) how there is even such a large budgetary "reserve" in the first place. Just tells me that someone was overtaxing the minions to begin with.

It's not unusual for pa districts to have 5-10% of their budget in a reserve, mainly to smooth out highs and lows of costs/tax increases. During the budget impass last summer, districts used the money to pay bills. Those without reserves borrowed shortterm at their own cost.

My point is that just because they have the money in the bank for a rainy day doesn't mean it's a good idea to use it to solve the problems of muddy days.

And i've heard rumors that sharon might somehow try to tie turf into the case avenue elementary replacement. Then it's just a matter of time till everyone has to have it.
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Re: Fake turf proposed for Hickory HS
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2010, 04:56:07 PM »
I'm now hearing that this is in fact $5.5 million just in capital money, separate from any savings built up in the operating budget.

If true, that means they just borrowed new 20-year money for the recent school renovation even though they had existing excess bond borrowing still sitting in the bank (money that was borrowed with interest).
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Re: Fake turf proposed for Hickory HS
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2010, 05:27:00 PM »

And i've heard rumors that sharon might somehow try to tie turf into the case avenue elementary replacement. Then it's just a matter of time till everyone has to have it.

Wouldn't surprise me.  It would be a great addition to Tiger Stadium with its track that's too short!
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