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Re: The case for eugenics
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2010, 02:21:04 PM »
I didn't know that Gore was in the gene pool, pass the chlorine please. I know that Clinton was giving it away and may still be.

Anyhow, I think you understand the implications to our social norms and mores should genetically superior humans find their way into the gene pool. Aside from the olympics never being the same again it does pose some interesting problems. We could wind up with an almost Blade Runner like scenario.
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Re: The case for eugenics
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2010, 04:16:30 PM »
What you described earlier already happened NP. Neanderthals were hominids - who some folks think may have cross bred with Cro-Magnons at some point too. Eventually though - they died out as a distinct species.

Is this happening again?

Don't know.

Thing is, if something similar were to occur again - nature will "choose" - not us. We are not nature's master. And we're totally kidding ourselves if we think we are.

Epigenetics being what they are though - there is some validity to the idea that we are effecting our own 'evolution' through our technology. (Our environment has changed enough to merit genetic adaptations in response to the changes we make.) In the end - what will win out is sustainability od technological change.

(Logically anyway - if there really is such a thing as logic.)

I don't know if we have the foresight to plan our technologies for 100 - 500 years down the road as we didn't do that 100 years ago . . . but then, we're smart enough to 'have' what we have now. So - maybe.

Maybe.

Lotsa possibilities in that word.
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Re: The case for eugenics
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2010, 04:59:51 PM »
What you described earlier already happened NP. Neanderthals were hominids - who some folks think may have cross bred with Cro-Magnons at some point too. Eventually though - they died out as a distinct species.

Is this happening again?

Don't know.

Thing is, if something similar were to occur again - nature will "choose" - not us. We are not nature's master. And we're totally kidding ourselves if we think we are.

Epigenetics being what they are though - there is some validity to the idea that we are effecting our own 'evolution' through our technology. (Our environment has changed enough to merit genetic adaptations in response to the changes we make.) In the end - what will win out is sustainability od technological change.

(Logically anyway - if there really is such a thing as logic.)

I don't know if we have the foresight to plan our technologies for 100 - 500 years down the road as we didn't do that 100 years ago . . . but then, we're smart enough to 'have' what we have now. So - maybe.

Maybe.

Lotsa possibilities in that word.


BTW... Life... Did I ever tell you how much I love your avitar? Great dog pic. Makes me happy just to look at it.
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Re: The case for eugenics
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2010, 06:39:26 PM »
Yeah it did happen, but times were less politically correct then I would imagine. When this eventually makes its way into mainstream society it will be interesting to see how everything falls into place.
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Re: The case for eugenics
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2010, 11:49:53 PM »
Say - if I could ask a favor? If I ever get to the point where white patent leather shoes and polyester pants pulled up to my nipples begin to look good to me - could someone please euthanize me?

Life, I never met you. How would I recognize you?
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Re: The case for eugenics
« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2010, 07:35:39 AM »
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Life, I never met you. How would I recognize you?

I'm the guy that looks like me.
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Re: The case for eugenics
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2010, 08:07:23 AM »
Hey, this is turning into the "case for euthanasia" topic.
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Re: The case for eugenics
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2010, 08:39:27 AM »
lol - thanks!
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Re: The case for eugenics
« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2010, 09:16:00 AM »
Well, it was what you requested after all.
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Re: The case for eugenics
« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2010, 12:03:32 PM »
Yeah - I suppose . . . but only under very specific conditions.

OK - back to topic. I was thinking a lot about the conundrum we have right now with the whole breeding / evolution thing. If folks aren't able to maintain pace with technology and maintain 'the grid' - then the solution works itself out due to an inability to adapt and it unfortunate consequences.

However - there's also the possibility that the more adaptable folks 'figure it out.' Question then becomes - OK - we've still got the folks that benefitted from the success of the 'adapters' that then live and therefore breed from that success.

Do you end up with 2 classes?

Then what?

Who has more 'rights' and benefits in such a system?

But then - that's kinda where we are now - ain't it? Or maybe that's what we're led to believe . . . .
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Re: The case for eugenics
« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2010, 12:46:32 PM »
An inkling of the future in regard to who would benefit the most in a technologically advanced society is presented in
[size=140%]Armageddon  2419 A.D.: The Seminal "Buck Rogers" Novel
A synopsis is that a WW1 vet awakens 500 years later after a stasis inducing mishap in a mine, to a world ruled by the Asiatic Hans. The cogent point for this discussion is that even though there was a "ruling class", the true "Princes" were the technicians who were the only ones with the knowledge to keep the technology that afforded the conveniences running. They were untouchable and above the law despite their non-royal ancestry.


With that said, NP, seems like you would be sitting pretty good!
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Re: The case for eugenics
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2010, 01:02:38 PM »
At best I'd be line management.
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Re: The case for eugenics
« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2010, 11:25:44 PM »
Hey, this is turning into the "case for euthanasia" topic.

eventually we get around to everything. Colonics can't be to far away.
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