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[lifefeedsonlife]

So - I'm talkin' to the Redhead and she said that Malthus suggested we eat babies.

She's scary. But then I think scary is kinda sexy . . . so . . . we've bred together an' dat. 

She also said there's long been discussions that the 'collective unconsciousness' has a basis in biology.

Midichlorians! LOL!

Well - maybe they just haven't been discovered and named yet . . . .

[NightmarePatrol]

So Jung was a Jedi? I'd like to hear more on that. Part of the problem is that evolution helped us to adapt us better cope with our environment. Here's a weird one I heard while abroad (from multiple people) while trying to buy clothes. I was told Americans have longer arms and broader feet than the remainder fo the world. I wonder why that is? So anyhow... modern life has presented our children with different needs than we had. Does that mean our kids will have longer and stronger thumbs to allow them to play video games better. I'd vote for quicker reaction times too. Of course they would only be able to escape virtual enemies since they can't actually run because they sit on their butts too much. See where I'm going? I sure don't. But I'm contributing to the entropy of the thread.

[lifefeedsonlife]

So Jung was a Jedi?

Pronounced Yed-eye?

Maybe if you're Swedish I guess.

(How's THAT for entropy?)

[NightmarePatrol]

I though Jung was German (or Austrian or Swiss?)

[GROK]

...Of course they would only be able to escape virtual enemies since they can't actually run because they sit on their butts too much.

They would be able to defend themselves aptly by turning their eventually evolved voluminous buttocks (say that 3 times fast) toward the enemy who would be unable to circumvent said obstacle thus trudge away in despair.

[GROK]

OK I think I figured it out...I really need to watch more weird movies or read more weird books so that I can keep up with what you all are referring too...but then again I don't go to the movies and mostly watch News, Stock Market or Sports...and only read what will help better myself or my family in life... ... ... ...except what I read here... ...and who knows... what is posted here may help me or my family better our life's...

Actually Ko-Shin, in all seriousness, there is a lot of "mind stretching" to be had by reading Science Fiction. Much of early Science "Fiction" has now become science fact.  Realize that if you can't dream of something coming to pass then it likely never will.

[GROK]

I have had a lot of Great Dreams with hope's and wishes that they would come to pass...but I am still waiting and I am not getting any better looking with-in the wait... ...also I am all for the expansion of the Mind...be it be real or make believe...fact or fiction...

As you well know, a dream merely provides the vision. Purposeful action will speed you along the road to achievement but does not guarantee success. From what I can surmise of you through your writings, you certainly do not seem like a despondent individual who would give up her dreams easily!

[Puffin]

However, given the propensity of the leeches on our society to breed without forethought and the resultant "dumbing down" of our genetic pool, I fear our society will become that envisioned in the excellent 1951 short story by C.M. Kornbluth "the Marching Morons"
www.wattpad.com/111513-the-marching-morons-c-m-kornbluth
This story is well worth the read even if you are not a SciFi buff.

Whenever eugenics is proposed it always comes down to that. Someone judging someone else inferior and not worthy to exist.
No matter how you disguise it Eugenics is the philosophical basis for the caste system, slavery, racial and ethnic cleansing , the holocaust ect.

[lifefeedsonlife]

Say - if I could ask a favor? If I ever get to the point where white patent leather shoes and polyester pants pulled up to my nipples begin to look good to me - could someone please euthanize me?

[NightmarePatrol]

Say - if I could ask a favor? If I ever get to the point where white patent leather shoes and polyester pants pulled up to my nipples begin to look good to me - could someone please euthanize me?

Only if you're wearing a white belt.

[GROK]

However, given the propensity of the leeches on our society to breed without forethought and the resultant "dumbing down" of our genetic pool, I fear our society will become that envisioned in the excellent 1951 short story by C.M. Kornbluth "the Marching Morons"
www.wattpad.com/111513-the-marching-morons-c-m-kornbluth
This story is well worth the read even if you are not a SciFi buff.

Whenever eugenics is proposed it always comes down to that. Someone judging someone else inferior and not worthy to exist.
No matter how you disguise it Eugenics is the philosophical basis for the caste system, slavery, racial and ethnic cleansing , the holocaust ect.

 
I do not disagree that those who espoused the travesties you listed may have used eugenics as their overt rationale; however, as you well know even the best or most socially acceptable philosophies can be subverted to the causes of those with evil intent. I do not think eugenics utilized to improve the species equates to actively eliminating anyone who is currently living or who may live in the future. It should not automatically be discarded as a potential avenue of discourse merely because the concept had been misappropriated in the past for nefarious purposes.
    In short, the question is do we prospectively actively intervene in our "evolution" via genetic enhancement or do we let our descendents be consigned to "evolve" according to adaptation to an environment that is becoming more dependent on technology? If the later, then like NP elucidated, prepare to have great grandchildren with hypertrophied thumbs and atrophied legs...reminds me of the song "In the year 2525"...and WALL-E.

[TiFeMb]

WALL-E was hilarious! I like the X-ray of their bone structure after 100's of years in the spaceship.

[NightmarePatrol]

I can't say about what would truly happen.  I could foresee the selection process going like this: Female or male wants to have the best child possible so they seekout an "enhanced" spouse for reproductive purposes. There's a great deal we don't know about genetics. Suppose somewhere down the line a flaw is discovered in the original process that will result in a defect in the enhanced human that is irreparable. What would become of humanity? Would there be a mass die-off? A final generation of sterile enhanced humans? What if through the process cross conception would not be possible? That would lead to a whole other issue wouldn't it?

When this happens (I believe it will eventually) humanity is going to be left with come very tough moral dilemmas to solve.

[NightmarePatrol]

Say we had enhanced humans running around (some believe we do) that were known. Let's say they were smarter, stronger, faster, longer lived and superior to standard issue humans in every way. What happens if they are the desired choice of the masses for a spouse because they will yield a superior child than a normal person. we sould see the eventual extinction of the human as we are today. Worse yet, what if they were ambitious and only wanted to procreate with those of means. We would have an instant two class society on our hands not only delimited by socio-economics, but by abilities. What then?

I could go on for hours with the possibilities.

[GROK]

To some extent this is already happening with fertilization clinics and sperm banks. Females are choosing prospective sperm donors for traits such as high IQ, high artistic achievement, etc. I believe they pay more for donors such as Nobel Laureates, maestros, physicians, engineers, etc. (Lawyers and Al Gore are deeply discounted I am sure)
   As more becomes known of our genetic makeup (which is rapidly occurring), I can foresee a time in the not too distant future where those who require non traditional fertilization (i.e. in vitro) will be able to very specifically request a donor. They should also be able to crossmatch with the egg-donor's DNA to eliminate chromosomal aberrations such as crosslinking, multiploidies, etc.