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[Jayhawk]

Ahhh JUST Mild Sexual Assault. To me this amounts to a physical confrontation in my family... not so mild.

You apparently missed my intended pointed that any degree of such assault is a degree too far, yet sadly there are still those who defend lockerroom hazing and hijinks as just boys being boys.

[Lifetime]

Sorry if I did... Just this crap is not acceptable to me...but that is just me
 

Ahhh JUST Mild Sexual Assault. To me this amounts to a physical confrontation in my family... not so mild.

You apparently missed my intended pointed that any degree of such assault is a degree too far, yet sadly there are still those who defend lockerroom hazing and hijinks as just boys being boys.

[Jayhawk]

Sorry if I did... Just this crap is not acceptable to me...but that is just me

It's unacceptable to any reasonable person.

though pedophilia and hazing ('it's not gay. it's manly teambuilding") are two different things, in the case of the latter, there are people who still defend what in any other context would be sexual or physical assault.

[Lifetime]

Speaking of differences at the OWS Rallies and the Tea Party Rallies ( and I know... who can identify this man as an OWS member?...but it does seem...)
 
http://tv.breitbart.com/caught-on-video-occupy-protester-defecates-in-public-street/
 
I have yet to see anyone drop drawers but according to some...maybe they had on their Depends? Still I never noticed any foul odors at the Teaparty Rallies.

[Lifetime]

An afterthought... Seems every vote does count. Absentees are in and Lechner is now ahead of Templeton. So now all of this depends on 2 things.... the Write-ins and if Mr. Templeton calls for a recount before 30 Nov. To recount, I think the rule is that the challenger pays ..I think $80/machine in the county or is it precinct...not sure. But... the amount of money can add up.
 
24,633 people voted out of  73,184 or 33.66% voted.  Well 33.66% IS better than the 14.65% in my precinct. Why even register to vote if you won't?? And 66% couldn't have been out of town all day or sick. A-P-A-T-H-Y
 
Oh well...
 
 

[Lifetime]

For those who may remember Justice Potter Stewart and his famous lines on pornography. We may have become jaded or immune to what is... IS.
 
 
(Stewart's gift for aphorism yielded a memorable opinion in Jacobellis v. Ohio (1964), which, to his chagrin, survived as his most widely quoted judicial utterance: “I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within [the term ‘hard-core pornography,' to which the justice believed that state criminal laws in the area of obscenity were constitutionally limited]; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that.” )

[Lifetime]

I love this... Over the last year there has been a call for a Photo ID in order to show it at the polls when we vote. Well..so much bitching..oh wecan't do that..disenfranchizing... and there is NO problem with Voter Fraud in PA.
 
So..now a member ot members of the same party who didn't feel the ID card wasn't needed because of NO fraud now is calling for arecount because of possible FRAUD!!! Hmmm Can we have it both ways?
 
I will wait until the 16th of December to see what the final outcome will be. Do we have FRAUD or don't we...and if we do.. the Photo ID is sounding better to me. I have no problem with showing an ID..I do it with Law Enforcement (Drivers License) When I utilize the Veterans Administration and had to have on pinned to my shirt when I was working..subject to a heck at anytime. And I come from an era where I still have a Social Security Card that implicitly states. "NOT TO BE USED FOR IDENTIFICATION" and now that has been removed from the cards and they are used almost daily by anyone from Employers to Health Care Personnel. It is time to quit the BS.

[Spicoli]

Actually they said the reason for the recount is "fraud or errors" and they didn't specify which so it could be either or both.

[Lifetime]

My point...IF..."Do we have FRAUD or don't we...and if we do.. "
 
Again..."I will wait until the 16th of December to see what the final outcome will be."
 
So you react because I didn't say ERRORS? For the sake of the argument I posted... it is the word FRAUD that is the target that is the basis of my post. If there is a human or machine error..a different story altogether. Key word... FRAUD.
 
So ..Dec 16 is not that far to go to see. The Dems could prove the case for photo ID need. Do they want to?

[Jayhawk]

Actually they said the reason for the recount is "fraud or errors" and they didn't specify which so it could be either or both.

Exactly. Any decent fraud effort isn't going to get an election to within 26 votes. And if -- if -- fraud is to be alleged, it could just as well be against absentee ballots and the means/reasons by which they were obtained. I don't know of any voter ID law that requires photo ID by mail.