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[NightmarePatrol]

According to the FBI, over 1.5 million background checks on customers were requested by gun dealers to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System in December. Nearly 500,000 of those were in the six days before Christmas.

It was the highest number ever in a single month, surpassing the previous record set in November.

On Dec 23 alone there were 102,222 background checks, making it the second busiest single day for buying guns in history.

The actual number of guns bought may have been even higher if individual customers took home more than one each.

Explanations for America's surge in gun buying include that it is a response to the stalled economy with people fearing crime waves. Another theory is that buyers are rushing to gun shops because they believe tighter firearms laws will be introduced in the future.

The National Rifle Association said people were concerned about self defence because police officer numbers were declining.

A spokesman said: "I think there's an increased realisation that when something bad occurs it's going to be between them and the criminal."

But anti-gun campaigners said those who already owned weapons were simply hoarding more of them due to "fear-mongering" by the NRA.

A spokeswoman for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence said: "The research we've seen indicates fewer and fewer people are owning more and more guns."

Dave LaRue, of Legendary Guns in Phoenix, Arizona, said Christmas sales were up 25 per cent on the previous year and ammunition sales were also "brisk".

He said: "There are a lot of people concerned about pending gun legislation and the sense about the current administration. People think future availability will be limited and there's a feeling of get it while you can."

The record for gun sales in a single day was set in November, on the day after Thanksgiving, when 129,166 background searches were carried out on customers buying weapons.

Since the near-fatal shooting of congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords by a deranged gunman in Tucson, Arizona last January there have been increasing calls for tighter gun control. Miss Giffords survived being shot in the head with a semi-automatic handgun, and six other people were killed.

Original article here

[Lifetime]

My wife wants her conceal carry permit. I told her if she got one, I would buy a revolver for her... thinking something along the line of a 38 spl Lady Smith...So... I have at least one more handgun to buy and will be buying some more ammo... am going for the military calibers... 5.56, 9 mm, 12 gauge, throw in some 45 and 762.39... All "precious metal".
 
I am thinking of also buying more bricks of 22 cal. Good for hunting small game and in general.. POing people.
 
I have been to the Big Gunstores around Clearfield PA and some have pictures of Pres. Obama..as salesman of the year. I met with a city official and explained the problem of old people who didn't move and now feel imprisoned. I also told him, I am not in a prison in my home... I am in a fort. Big difference. Besides.... it was shown that GOLD only appreciated 10% and if no lead is collected... all you can do is throw the gold. Priorities folks.

[Jayhawk]

Another theory is that buyers are rushing to gun shops because they believe tighter firearms laws will be introduced in the future.

The NRA has been using this bullsh!t line for decades, yet there is no such legislation proposed or even remotely on the horizon. But, hey, fear brings in donations.

The National Rifle Association said people were concerned about self defence because police officer numbers were declining.

Ironically, in mercer county in 2011, shooting deaths BY cops outnumbered murders 2:1.

Dave LaRue, of Legendary Guns in Phoenix, Arizona, said, "There are a lot of people concerned about pending gun legislation and the sense about the current administration. People think future availability will be limited and there's a feeling of get it while you can."

Probably just defending their hords of survival food and gold coins that they bought at 30% above their value.

Since the near-fatal shooting of congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords by a deranged gunman in Tucson, Arizona last January there have been increasing calls for tighter gun control. Miss Giffords survived being shot in the head with a semi-automatic handgun, and six other people were killed.

If i'm not mistaken, one crowd member who was carrying not only was powerless to stop the shooter but he almost got perforated himself when the cops showed up and saw him with a weapon.

[NightmarePatrol]

I think it's partially as sign of the times. Property crime is on the rise and I think people are either afraid or overly cautious. My wife has her CCW and FWIW her Smith 643 hammerless .38 was too big of a PITA to reliably conceal. Mainly because of the warm temperatures and thin clothing usually worn here. So now she has a Ruger LCP. With hydrashocks in it the stopping power goes up to acceptable levels and she can easily conceal it. Is it a good thing? I have mixed feelings about it, but in the long run I suppose I'd rather her have it than not.

As for the line the NRA has been using for years, well it's not entirely BS. A lot of states have gone to great lengths to restrict access to weapons by the general public. My guess is they will eventually target the ammunition supply to force guns to be used as clubs. I do know the busiest gun show they had down here was the first one after the 2008 election. I heard a ton of AR 15's went flying out the door. I honestly don't see the need for anyone to own an AR 15, AK, Uzi or any other assult weapon though if the unthinkable would happen and we get invaded by someone I'll feel pretty foolish about this statement.

Where all this is going is anybody's guess. I think a lot concerns will be exacerbated or relieved after November 6th is over with. Our rights our getting chipped away ever so slowly and one day we may wake up and find ourselves with none.

[gore range]

Another theory is that buyers are rushing to gun shops because they believe tighter firearms laws will be introduced in the future.

The NRA has been using this bullsh!t line for decades, yet there is no such legislation proposed or even remotely on the horizon. But, hey, fear brings in donations.

…. http://nation.foxnews.com/guns/2011/05/25/obama-were-working-gun-control-under-radar....

Since the near-fatal shooting of congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords by a deranged gunman in Tucson, Arizona last January there have been increasing calls for tighter gun control. Miss Giffords survived being shot in the head with a semi-automatic handgun, and six other people were killed.

If i'm not mistaken, one crowd member who was carrying not only was powerless to stop the shooter but he almost got perforated himself when the cops showed up and saw him with a weapon.

….at least six private civilians attending the Gifford meeting were legally carrying concealed, and, at least two drew their weapons reacting to the shootings. However they didn’t take aim due to the complete lack of any clear shot at Jared Loughner with the[/] multitude of other civilians down range of Loughner….

….at least two of those carrying concealed were involved in physically disarming and restraining Loughner until the arrival of the LEOs….

….no LEOs at the scene ever took aim, threatened, questioned the judgement, or confiscated the weapons of any of those legally carrying at the scene, and in fact they received numerous alcolades for their actions….
[/]

[Lifetime]

"ASSAULT WEAPON"... just what is THAT??? The Bow was at ne time... Sword another... AR-15, AK, SKS, M1, Ruger 10-22, Mossberg 935... What do these guns have in common?? They are all SEMI-Automatic. Please..read this site...
 
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcassaul.html
 
An AR-15 shoots a 5.56...semi...as does a Ruger Mini-14. They look different but do the same thing. Mossberg 935 12 gauge and a Saiga 12 gage... both semi-auto shotguns but one is a military AK receiver and the other..a damned good water fowl gun.
 
Now... I have a few of those so called "assault weapons". I carried a few of them in Auto form which IS ASSAULT. I can tear them down and reassemble ( Use to do it blindfolded) I have them for "fun". Kinda like someone would like to own a car with 500 HP with top speed of 180...but don't need it and it can cause a problem going over a speed limit met adequately by a car with 1/2 the HP.
 
Now I agree with much of the view you have of the NRA. But I am not a member of any of them. I think the Castle Doctrine was needed...and I do not approve of AMMO restrictions. Now, that being said, I have been aroung firearms for over 60 years.. grew up with them. Have had Law Enforcement in the family so Hand Guns were TOOLS. Long Guns meant meat in the freezer. Now I am also not that naive to say I have guns for hunting only... Our world has changed enough to add other uses. I do not want to be an easy victim... and I do not want my family to become one as well.
 
So, my point is..we need to understand definitions before we start saying things. It is bad enough the illiterate media doesn't do that... but they need the "bling"to earn a living... but...we don't. Now, I will not subject a semi to the hell in my wife's purse. A revolver is far better able to take the abuse. I may try to figure out a good Holster. And... it won't stovepipe or need cleared in a misfire. My wife knows my instructions... Once pulled to fire and committed to the target... pull the trigger until you hear "CLICK" and then pull once more. Like the Police... I won't shoot to wound. Center Of Mass...Double Tap (at least) . Home protection..as I get older.. an old 12 gauge is perfect... covers the need to be accurate or looking for glasses. Do not buy and carry a gun, unless you will use it in a deadly manner when needed. You will choke, and your actor will take it from you and make you dead. IMHO
 
 
 

I think it's partially as sign of the times. Property crime is on the rise and I think people are either afraid or overly cautious. My wife has her CCW and FWIW her Smith 643 hammerless .38 was too big of a PITA to reliably conceal. Mainly because of the warm temperatures and thin clothing usually worn here. So now she has a Ruger LCP. With hydrashocks in it the stopping power goes up to acceptable levels and she can easily conceal it. Is it a good thing? I have mixed feelings about it, but in the long run I suppose I'd rather her have it than not.

As for the line the NRA has been using for years, well it's not entirely BS. A lot of states have gone to great lengths to restrict access to weapons by the general public. My guess is they will eventually target the ammunition supply to force guns to be used as clubs. I do know the busiest gun show they had down here was the first one after the 2008 election. I heard a ton of AR 15's went flying out the door. I honestly don't see the need for anyone to own an AR 15, AK, Uzi or any other assult weapon though if the unthinkable would happen and we get invaded by someone I'll feel pretty foolish about this statement.

Where all this is going is anybody's guess. I think a lot concerns will be exacerbated or relieved after November 6th is over with. Our rights our getting chipped away ever so slowly and one day we may wake up and find ourselves with none.

[NightmarePatrol]

I have a Remington 1100 I shot skeet with. Assault rifle, no. Assault weapon? Yeah it could be. From 10' to 50' there's nothing better IMO. However I won't be attempting to convert it to a full automatic either. Imagine a full auto 12 gauge and the dislocated shoulder that would eventually happen. I still don't see the "need" to have one,but yeah, they're fun unless your dumb enough to buy crappy surplus Egyptian ammo... pow pow pow click pow click pow pow pow click click pow pow and so on.  I'm a PITA because I told my wife to run good American ammo only through her weapons.

As far as your wife carrying in her purse... bad idea IMO. Get her a good holster. The purse will be the first thing taken away and can she orient the bag, possibly unzip or unclasp it, find, grip and control anything from in there before someone can take it away from her. At least you can throw the purse at them which they will be probably be dumb enough to grab, buying some precious time in which she can remove whatever she has and properly protect herself.

And the from the WTF file there's this. I know there's people that would like to see firearms abolished. I for one hope that day never comes because it would be the first shot in and extended volley to abolish the first ten amendments. Most of them are already being challenged by something like the NDAA.  I do fear that we as a country are on a very slippery slope where individual and state liberties are concerned.

Sorry, I got a little off-track there.

[Jayhawk]

…. http://nation.foxnews.com/guns/2011/05/25/obama-were-working-gun-control-under-radar....

If you follow this back several generations to relatively primary reporting at the HuffPost (as if they do much original reporting at all), you don't find anything akin to the guv'ment coming a-knockin' to collect your deer rifle. Instead, you find references to trying to make background checks include more existing, relevant information and to increasing enforcement of existing laws:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/15/obama-gun-laws-congress_n_836138.html


As for other possible actions that can be taken without Congress, Mayors Against Illegal Guns has compiled a wishlist of sorts, suggesting that the national background-check system enforce the requirement that all federal agencies report individuals forbidden under federal law from purchasing guns; that the White House restructure regulations requiring that the FBI destroy firearm-purchase records after 90 days; that the FBI, DOJ and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives be more aggressive in pursuing federal prosecutions against those individuals who illegally attempted to buy firearms; and that the latter agency ramp up undercover investigations of sales at gun shows.

...at least two of those carrying concealed were involved in physically disarming and restraining Loughner until the arrival of the LEOs…

Which had absolutely nothing to do with whether they were packing or not.

I can't find the reference quickly, but i'm sure i heard or read at the time that in the confusion one of those law-abiding conceiled-carriers nearly got hisself shot because he was standing at a crime scene holding a gun.

Regardless, because the shooter had a large-capacity weapon -- the very thing that is among the few areas where gun control may tighten -- it didn't really matter that a handful of citizens happened to find it necessary to carry a six-shooter while en route to the Piggly Wiggley just to buy for bread and milk.

[Lifetime]

I could have bought an M16 A1. Citizens can buy FULL AUTO machine weapons. All they have to do is have a good record, money for the weapon and fees, and rich enough to feed it. Semi is the way to go...more control.. tri burt is a good system..
 
Now... it is SOP... if a woman carries in a purse..there are rules. one is... it is a shoulder strap purse..substancial is best, and if carrying.. in dubious suroundings.. the hand is in the purse on the handgun. Some women, for their own reasons... do NOT like holsters and the lumps. If out at night and going in a dark lot or location, I have the firearm in hand though not drawn. Watch Safety forces like police approach a situation... hand on the weapon as they approach. Military.. when appraoching and AO..the M-4 is in hand tho not in line of site position.... yet but a second away. I don't care how good you are, you cannot be fast enough if you wait and have to take the time to reach for a shoulder, waist or SOB set up.
 
Full Auto is not the best. I trained on the M14 prior to my Asian Vacation and on FULL AUTO..it was anything but effective and controlable. Shooting it, in key, insured your last round was high and way off targert. Semi is best. Again... there are Assault Shotguns but all they do is spray as well. A semi is NOT ASSAULT.. Saigas are semi..and tho look nasty, are not any more effective than the 1100 and maybe even less because it is not barrelled to hunt small animals. Shotguns are, however efective in sending MANY projectiles downfield to cover a wider area per round. That and the fact it usually doesn't usually go through walls is a reason for in the home protection. Handguns I have in the home for protection have rounds that tend to expand rather than pass through.. even my 230 grain 45... Hydros and HP is a good start. The Ol' Black Talons were just fancy HPs. I even have HP for my 380. I never look for a distant shot...not what handguns are suppose to do. They are more for up close and personal.
 
Again..don't point a weapon unless you are willing to follow through if the need arises. If you hesitate..it may cost more than you want to pay. It is better to be smart and unarmed than "stoopid" and loaded to the 10s, for you and those around you. Again..assault identifies a weapon with select fire..semi is NOT assault.
 
 
 

I have a Remington 1100 I shot skeet with. Assault rifle, no. Assault weapon? Yeah it could be. From 10' to 50' there's nothing better IMO. However I won't be attempting to convert it to a full automatic either. Imagine a full auto 12 gauge and the dislocated shoulder that would eventually happen. I still don't see the "need" to have one,but yeah, they're fun unless your dumb enough to buy crappy surplus Egyptian ammo... pow pow pow click pow click pow pow pow click click pow pow and so on.  I'm a PITA because I told my wife to run good American ammo only through her weapons.

As far as your wife carrying in her purse... bad idea IMO. Get her a good holster. The purse will be the first thing taken away and can she orient the bag, possibly unzip or unclasp it, find, grip and control anything from in there before someone can take it away from her. At least you can throw the purse at them which they will be probably be dumb enough to grab, buying some precious time in which she can remove whatever she has and properly protect herself.

And the from the WTF file there's this. I know there's people that would like to see firearms abolished. I for one hope that day never comes because it would be the first shot in and extended volley to abolish the first ten amendments. Most of them are already being challenged by something like the NDAA.  I do fear that we as a country are on a very slippery slope where individual and state liberties are concerned.

Sorry, I got a little off-track there.

[NightmarePatrol]

Agreed, small handguns aren't good for much of anything over 20 feet. On the other hand the need to use one not likely happen at a distance of much more than that anyhow. At least from the perspective of personal protection.  Shotguns on the other hand are awesome, just a bit more unwieldy. They also have the potential to leave a much bigger mess to clean up. Saiga's are essentially a modern version of a "riot gun" that hold a lot of ammo. Not good for much but real close range stuff and not practical for me to own. The 1100 is easy to shoot, doesn't kick much as 12 gauges go and has proven very reliable.

I have never fired a full auto before nor do I have a desire to move to Kentucky or obtain a FFL  just so I can get one.

Again..don't point a weapon unless you are willing to follow through if the need arises. If you hesitate..it may cost more than you want to pay. It is better to be smart and unarmed than "stoopid" and loaded to the 10s, for you and those around you.

Don't even let on that you have it until you need to and are willing use it.

The laws surrounding the CCW permit are extensive. Most is just common sense but if your wife does obtain a CCW it's a great idea to buy a book on the states CCW laws. In Florida there is a book that once you buy it you get eternal updates to the laws for life. However after about 5 years of updates it's easier to just get a new one. Get one, read it and understand it. There may be some surprises. Once you lose that permit, you'll probably never get it back. Personally  I hope my wife never has to even think about reaching for her weapon. I did tell her that she is to go to the range regularly. I also make her do all the maintenance on her weapons too (cleaning, etc). It's just my belief that one need to know these things.

[gore range]

... buy a book on the states CCW laws. In Florida there is a book that once you buy it you get eternal updates to the laws for life...

....and the book is? ? ? ? ?

[NightmarePatrol]

This is the one for Florida. I don't know if there is one out for PA or other states, but I bet there is.

[gore range]

.... Thanks! Though, aimed at Floridians, nice to see someone, even a self-promoting lawyer, trying to keep folks up to speed regarding the ever evolving quicksand of Firearm/CCW quicksand....


....on the recent road trip down to the Dry Tortugas the front of the road atlas was looking like a well-amended first draft term paper with the additions of the various state's CCW requirements printed out on the bunker HP and taped to the first several pages of the atlas, which only became more & more ragged with the continual review of such at each state line crossing....


....rather fascinating how the beat of the CCW tango changes as one travels state to state endeavoring to not end up like the jar-head at the Empire State Building; his bad- sucks to be him....

[NightmarePatrol]

We have a copy. 

And FYI... here are the reciprocity listings for Colorado, Florida and Pennsylvania.

[gore range]

...thanks, again. However, the reciprocity agreements are the easy part; it's the 'duty to retreat', and even harder to gleam-  'duty to inform' variations from state to state that present the real challenges when rolling along the slab....