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Machinsts wanted, just not in NW PA.
« on: February 16, 2012, 03:28:35 PM »
However if you're willing to relocate, there's work elsewhere.
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Re: Machinsts wanted, just not in NW PA.
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 05:51:21 PM »
But please... do not apply if you know you CANNOT pass a piss test. When we had jobs more local at $1000/week plus overtime/ plus Perdiem/plus housing and transportation to the worksite... on a group of 400 who were interviewed and tested... 20 made the cut. Your drug history as well as Driving history has a lot to do with jobs.... not to mention any criminal history. Add to this, you would have worked 21 to 28 days straight with a week off. That is a lot of time off.
 
Just my opinion...
 
Point is...there are jobs... are you job ready?? You do the self check.
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Re: Machinsts wanted, just not in NW PA.
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 07:57:05 PM »
I've had to do the battery of tests. Had to take a version of an MMPI to get one job. Took 90 minutes to take the test. What a PITA.
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Re: Machinsts wanted, just not in NW PA.
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 09:46:22 PM »
the good news would be that skill shortages usually mean higher wages
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Re: Machinsts wanted, just not in NW PA.
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2012, 10:18:06 PM »
One of the reasons I like coming here is because I learn so much.

I just had to Google MMPI... which led me to a website with a list of the actual questions for people wanting to "study for" or  "cheat" on the test.

Oh brother.

They need to revamp and update the test and include questions like "how many times a day do you Google?".

Interesting article about looking for qualified machinists.
Mr. Zip is a toolmaker.
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Re: Machinsts wanted, just not in NW PA.
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 11:05:03 AM »
I have some friends who are in the system to study this very thing....
 
Here are some things I take out of what we talk about..
 
Yup..Higher wages..Good..to those in the system...bad for those not.
 
First..this means you have to cut ties and travel/move... think of what has to be done for that... if you have kids and wife and home.
 
Next... Where these high paying positions are...the cost of living is either high when you get there or will be as it sets in.
 
So this goes across the board and like a shiney dime, everyone is dazzeled but...it is just a dime.
 
$50k here is a good income but... in New York, Honolulu, LA, and many large cities in the mid west.... peanuts. To maintain the standard of living that a lot have here in Western PA ( meaning the Vision of Middle Class may require $100k/year in many places.
 
My son wanted to get into the FBI about 20 years ago. He had the education and job skills for Law Enforcement. I told him that he will end up at Quantico for his training and most likely be seeing a first assignment in the Washington DC area. If so.. he will have to think hard. Wife onboard.. he would have started at aroung $14K which is not a livable wage in DC area. So I saw my wife and I housing the Daughter In Law with him buddying up with other new agents just to be close to work. Car/Insurance/parking is a major factor.
 
Plus..if the area was to become a boom area..impact on the local population can be negative too. All this Shale oil business has incurred unthought of problems in many areas it is in. It causes the COL to skyrocket.. rent, house prices, new car and used car prices, even food and clothing. And to add to this... it is not a PERMANENT thing. After the infrastructurs are in place..all of the people will not be needed in the area to maintain/build. So now the home prices will drop like they did as we went into 2008.
 
Given that, in many cases you have FORCED out the VERY PEOPLE who helped to build and maintain that Community before this came in. I can see even more Blight. Some call it Progress but I see it as another knife in middle class life and those who worked hard to have what they have...usually the elder population. It reminds me of Natives taking their Elder out into the woods or on and Ice Flow to die.
 
We need to be putting more thought into our decisions IMHO. Make sure you have a good strong foundation before building a huge house on top of it.
 
I am not saying that making good money is bad, I am , however saying you have to watch who's backs you are standing on to get there... they could be members of your own family... IE.. your Elder members as well as some of your younger who are dealing with some nasty life decisions... IE Pregnant Daughter with a toddler and a low life who won't pay his share..Parents who lost their retirement in this fiasco.. etc. It isn't the Ecological destruction alone in some...it is the Societal implications as well.
 
In some towns who have the Shale Boom, many things happen, not just the money... Crime, as well as Law Enforcement calls to incidents.. reminding you of the Wild West Boom Towns and remember..a lot of these incomers are not from these towns... many from Texas, Montana and even Alaska...not one tie here but work.
 
Silicon Valley is almost a memory, Even all the little machine shops in Meadville... LOL And take a look at the town of Pithole PA near Titusville, not to mention the gray hulks of leftover mills in Western PA. 20 years can make or break.
 
Even the Get rich schemes have holes
 
"The precious metal is very attractive in an unstable economic  environment, but anyone with access to the Internet can find out about the  boom-and-bust cycle of gold.
 
The boom is what all the people on "cash for gold" commercials  want you to hear. True, gold has never gone to zero -- but gold did  drop 65% in just two years in the mid-1980s."
 
Ok..off my soapbox for a while... point is... think it through...
 
 
 
 
 
the good news would be that skill shortages usually mean higher wages
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Re: Machinsts wanted, just not in NW PA.
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2012, 04:31:03 PM »
Our property taxes are lower where I live, however homeowners insurance is really expensive. In nost aspects it evens out in the end, but not always. The people in Williamsport are paying through the nose now that fracking has run amok in that area. It's causing a problem for those with no income or those whose income is not keeping pace with the cost of living. I'm constantly amazed when I compare the price of groceries here to what the are up in PA.
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Re: Machinsts wanted, just not in NW PA.
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 05:46:28 PM »
As in all things...there are exceptions to the rule but with the people involved in thestudy.. you are an exception...believe me and it also depends on your "target". The problems I have mentioned are very apparent in areas like Williamsport and well as locations west into  Ohio... We will see how this all shakes out.
 
 
Not necessary true...we live outside a Major City and we also own houses in the Mercer County area...and the Taxes and Utilities are higher in the valley then here...also the Gas Prices are Higher in Mercer County then here...we also notice when we grocery shop in the Valley that prices are higher for most groceries...even our Home Owners Insurance is Cheaper here with a Bigger House...not saying that other places may be a higher cost of living then Mercer County...but then if there is NO work one must Move or Cope where they are...My Parents moved around for Work...and We move for Work...so one can stay and wait for Jobs to come to them or...it is a Choice on what or how one wants to live...IMO... ;) ...oh and we moved in 1986...we both lost our Jobs in the Valley...we do Miss Family and Friends...but we always can visit them and visa versa... 8) ...
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Re: Machinsts wanted, just not in NW PA.
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2012, 07:34:07 PM »
I know we can go back and forth on this.. I don't have family all over the place... Warren County PA and York PA.... Next stop Greece is all I know of. I do however have contacts in agencies that deal with the described situations I have mentioned. Yes...there is work..and you don't get a Marine Biologist degree to work in Death Valley. "HELP WANTED" signs on every Fast Food, Dollar Store and even ALDI's... You go where the work is. But the fact will remain that the number of jobs one will have on average is much more than it use to be because the Jobs are moving around more than people. So...when the opportunities move.... communities change... some better , some not so much. I hear Masterlock is hiring 100 people... Obama said so.
 
I am no expert on anything, but know just enough to get into trouble or my point across.
 
I still believe our geographical area is still lower cost to live in over all..so far. If this wasn't the fact... why do we still have a lot of people who bought homes here and commute to their work, ....in Cleveland and Pittsburgh. And food and fuel are not bad here yet... Because I live in Sharon, I buy gasoline in Ohio..sometimes as much as 30 cents cheaper/gal. Groceries depend on the store you shop and how you utilize coupons. My home is NOT an investment and is treated like a pair of shoes... when I tire of it I can walk away from it if I have to. I have lived in the same home for 42 years. It does what a home is suppose to do, keep the rain, snow and wind out and a place friends can find me. I admit my taxes are higher than most but still not a killer. I learned early on in life... a McMansion can be a PITA when you need it the most.
 
If you go back a read my posts you will see I am remarking on the impact of all of this over all. Not the fact people need to go elsewhere for work. It is a 2 edged sword. IMHO
 
 
Luv being an Exception... ;) ...have Family in Ohio...will say the same...Family in Oklahoma...will say the same...Family and Friends in Florida...yep more of the Exception...but hey I did say others may be higher...Have Friends in California...now they might have someting different to say...lol...again if you want to work and there is a JOB elsewhere...it is a Choice...but stop crying about NO WORK...we see Jobs all around here...but as elsewhere...Most can not pass a piss test...or a simple aptitude test... :o ...so they will sit and Bitch about their entitlements... ::) ...
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