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[Foodie]

I have to say that area is such an eyesore.....what gives and who owns the old Shop and Save?   I cannot believe someone has not tried to buy that building, unless it's the same owners of the mall??

http://www.meadvilletribune.com/local/local_story_171230126.html

[CindyLouWho]

I think it is the same owners.  One of the two articles in the Trib this week stated so if I remember correctly.  2.5 million is a lot of money to spend and not do something with!  Maybe they have tried but just can not get someone in there?  I have heard that many retailers like Target, Wegman's, Kohl's and such have a building plan and only open NEW stores built by them and their specs.  Plus the place looks like a rat trap due to questionable upkeep.

[NightmarePatrol]

I remember the mall in the 70's. It was the place to go. There was a downtown then too. The mall helped decimate the downtown and then went by the wayside itself.

I bed there's as many that would like to have the downtown back as want the mall to return. It's pretty disturbing to me that the population that is close to the mall numbers over 20,000 that a tiny little mall like that can't make it. I know things aren't good, but the area need a little shopping diversity doesn't it?

[Kimmi]

Poor Santa.  He is going to miss sitting under that leaky roof! 

Remember when they used to have the baby chics under the warming lights in the spring time?

[Foodie]

The entire mall is locked up....you cannot even get inside the concourse.   Kmart is the only store you can access and they have the back concourse entrance boarded up with the shoe department now.

Pretty sad.

Oh and the Penn Plaza where County Markets used to be on Terrace St is still empty.   I don't even know if anyone has a store down there anymore.    I know the Baldwin-Reynolds museum uses it every other year to board passengers for a ride up in a bus to the museum. 

Downtown Mall seems to be hoping most of the time, although I have not been in there in ages myself.   

[Amidala]

I've heard that both the old County Market and the Old Wards are being used for storage - one tenant is Dad's; can't remember the other.

New site looks good, NP!!

[NightmarePatrol]

Wow, you haven't been here in a while have you Ami, changed the look around a few months back!

Thanks!

[TiFeMb]

Thanks for stopping in Ami. I always appreciate your input on the "other" threads.

I remember working at 4 star pizza down at the Penn Plaza. I always wondered out loud why we weren't 5 starts.

[Amidala]

Thanks for the kind words.

The other forum.... kinda quiet without the rabblerousers (The Family and The Wanda-ites)...

Plus it is summer and things usually quiet down.  Forums are great for those long, cold, winter days...

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On another note, I really can't figure out WHY CC is so resistant to change.  Anyone have any thoughts?

[TiFeMb]

I really can't figure out WHY CC is so resistant to change.

I have lived in Meadville 3 times, grew up there, lived there after my time in the service & recently moved back to be with family. There always was that sense that people looked out for themselves and their "family", no matter what. Even if it made no sense. So for an outsider or someone not "connected", it feels pretty cold.

I didn't really understand it until I went crabbing down south. We were catching blue crabs with chicken necks tied to a string, and putting them in a cooler, alive. I noticed that my buddy didn't try to close the cooler cover & asked why not because the crabs would get out. He just said "watch".

Whenever a crab would climb over the others and almost escape, the other crabs would use their claws to drag them down. Over and over and over. Not one crab escaped, even when the cooler was over half full. They just kept dragging each other down.

"If I can't get out, then NOBODY gets out" mentality.

But if they just worked together, ALL of them could have got out.

And that's how it seems in CC: A large number of people can't or won't get out & they are intent on holding onto what little piece of control they have.

Why does everyone from Meadville HATE people & students from Allegheny?!? It makes no sense to have all of that knowledge & free labor (internships) and not use it to revitalize the town. I know from the inside that Allegheny would LOVE to work on that kind of a project, but the locals are resistant & continue the town vs. gown mentality.

I remember all too often fights that started in bars between townies & college kids just because "u ain't from around here" or they were wearing clean clothes, or something stupid.

I specifically have heard townies utter "This is MY bar, get out!" like that is some kind of lifetime achievement, like Norm on cheers.

oops, got negative, sorry about that. back to my dweeby job which resembles NP's job, sort of, except he's cooler. 

[Amidala]

TiFeMb ~ that is a BRILLIANT analogy. Just Brilliant.  Thank You.
 

[CindyLouWho]

The crab analogy  works.  Soooooo true.

[Foodie]

Well spoken TiFe and so dang true......I would love to see change here in CC but often wonder "when" will it happen?

[eeticket]

I like the crab analogy.  It's accurate. I know that Meadville had a shot at getting a Miller Brewery and a Cummins engine plant at one time but the powers that were not about to give the companies any breaks to move into the area. They also wanted to limit the number of people that could be brought in from the outside to work there. I guess they were concerned about riff-raff from outside the CC bubble.  So part of it boils down to them wanting to have their cake and eat it too.

I think everyone one who visits here has either been elsewhere in the world or moved to CC from elsewhere. It's not a bad place, but it's almost like a protectionist third world country in some ways. I probably did not explain that too well, but I gave it my best shot. 

[Foodie]

NP, I understood that well and you are right.....CC had many opportunities but alas