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Re: More on climate change
« Reply #90 on: April 20, 2018, 06:36:23 PM »
Clearly that does not tell the whole picture.  Just look at the trend, China is building less than half what it was10 years ago.  The trend is clear.  Also these plants have lower emissions requirements of the rest of the world by far.  China can't just stop replacing their retiring plants overnight, but they are investing hundreds of billions of dollars right now in renewables.


https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/5/15/15634538/china-coal-cleaner



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/05/world/asia/china-renewable-energy-investment.html

https://endcoal.org/global-coal-plant-tracker/summary-statistics/

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CKsjpMg1dUaQyAszkAocVKMYJWIB1c8dAPUtLCmylAo/edit#gid=0




 
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Re: More on climate change
« Reply #91 on: April 20, 2018, 07:12:32 PM »
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Re: More on climate change
« Reply #92 on: April 20, 2018, 08:41:54 PM »
People seem to think they have a god-given right to sunny skies and warm days, so they move to warmer/ hotter climates, drawing on the limited water supply. Either way, regardless of causation, we are setting up future generations for water crises. And I wonder when the rich Arab oil countries will become desert ghost towns. Water can be a great equalizer, necessary for survival. Remember, those areas were once great rainforests, the source of their oil riches.
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Re: More on climate change
« Reply #93 on: April 21, 2018, 10:28:17 PM »
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Re: More on climate change
« Reply #94 on: April 21, 2018, 10:39:08 PM »
  So where did you find that fake news.  Claiming a 43% increase yet global coal usage is flat or declining despite a global population that is growing.  Again you give part of the story without supporting facts, clearly the countries outside of these "62" you claim are closing them at the same pace as these "62" are opening them and you seemed to forget to mention that.  For someone that claims to have so many facts you seem to omit the ones that don't support your case, dear.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-coal-iea/growth-in-global-coal-demand-subdued-over-next-five-years-iea-idUSKBN1EC0PP

According to a report published yesterday  (pdf) by Greenpeace, CoalSwarm, and the Sierra Club, the number of new  coal plants being developed around the world continued to decline  between 2015 and 2017. As of January, the world had seen a 29%  year-on-year drop in construction starts, and a 73% drop in them in the  past two years, according to the report (p. 4). Meanwhile, the number of  newly completed coal plants fell 28% year-on-year in 2017.
“With declining deployment and high levels of retirement, coal power  capacity is now caught in a squeeze: if current trends continue, by 2022  yearly retirements will exceed new capacity and the global coal fleet  will begin to shrink,” notes the report (pdf, p. 3).


https://qz.com/1235125/the-number-of-coal-plants-worldwide-is-shrinking-but-nowhere-near-enough/


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Re: More on climate change
« Reply #95 on: April 22, 2018, 01:25:34 AM »
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Re: More on climate change
« Reply #96 on: April 22, 2018, 12:11:14 PM »
Go Michael Bloomberg.
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Re: More on climate change
« Reply #97 on: April 22, 2018, 02:34:06 PM »
Looks like a tsunami of change in just a few years, the future looks bright for clean energy, and not for coal.  In PA you can switch to 100% renewable energy from First Energy for the same cost as coal with a 2 year contract.  www.papowerswitch.com


https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2018/04/22/google-amazon-push-power-companies-solar-and-wind-blow-coal/438020002/

"The smart ones are seeing it as a competitive advantage,"  the dumb ones, well they just complain about it.....
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