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Re: The Trump Administration
« Reply #330 on: May 26, 2017, 02:11:14 PM »
You know when Fox News has low poll numbers for a Republican they are actually really really low.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-mike-pence-approval-133559819.html
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Re: The Trump Administration
« Reply #331 on: June 02, 2017, 07:39:52 PM »
I hope the prez gets off his butt an appoints people to run FEMA and NOAA. These two seats are not currently filled and hurricane season started yesterday.
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Re: The Trump Administration
« Reply #332 on: June 03, 2017, 08:52:17 AM »
I hope he was kept informed from a contingent sent to Hanoi (During the visit to DC of Vietnam Prime Minister)... on the talks of our POW-MIAs. All I have heard much about was the $$$$ in contracts we are signing with Vietnam. Families still wait for closure almost 60 years later... I will be going to New Orleans in the near future to meet with the interim head of DPAA (Defense POW-MIA Accounting Agency) to discuss the issue. Hoping to get some answers... but will NOT hold my breath.
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Re: The Trump Administration
« Reply #333 on: June 03, 2017, 05:35:56 PM »
We seem to have a lot of interim heads of a lot of departments and agencies at the moment. Those slots should have been filled by now.
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Re: The Trump Administration
« Reply #334 on: June 04, 2017, 01:56:04 PM »
Maybe they have to finish all the team challenges before he announces from his boardroom table which ones get hired.
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Re: The Trump Administration
« Reply #335 on: June 05, 2017, 07:42:23 AM »
We seem to have a lot of interim heads of a lot of departments and agencies at the moment. Those slots should have been filled by now.

The DPAA was formed out of the lackluster merge of the DPMO and JPAC... We thought one agency was enough. It was headed by Gen. Linnington and he even said he would stay in place for at least 10 years... Along came the BANE of good Veteran Service entities... The Wounded Warrior Project and their downfall over a year ago and they offered Linnington a better paying position so... about 1 year in, he baled. So goes the 10 year plan. Since then... the position has remained open. So...the slot WAS filled but.. $$$$ talks and Bullshit walks. I have followed this Cluster F_ck evolve for decades... not just under Trump. Loyalties are out the window when King Cash is laid out. It seems all they want is money and no HEAD ACHES... This could be the reason so many go unfilled permanently as are the POLITICAL reasons.
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Re: The Trump Administration
« Reply #336 on: June 05, 2017, 10:50:24 AM »
Watched the news this morning and saw the President calling the mayor of London "pathetic".  This is very helpful politically and morally.  Very sad.
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Re: The Trump Administration
« Reply #337 on: June 05, 2017, 04:19:54 PM »
Decorum is not his strong suit for sure.
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Re: The Trump Administration
« Reply #338 on: June 06, 2017, 12:26:36 PM »
Class. Class all the way.
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Re: The Trump Administration
« Reply #339 on: June 21, 2017, 03:35:22 PM »
Do you see a trend?
GA-06 margins over the last 15 years:
2002:  R+59
2004: R unopposed
2006: R +45
2008: R +37
2010: R unopposed
2012: R +29
2014: R +33
2016: R +23
2017: R +4
College  and post college educated as well as younger moving toward Democrats, less educated / no college moving toward Republicans as well.  Clearly that explains why some still believe in Trump and his never ending lies......
http://www.people-press.org/2016/09/13/2-party-affiliation-among-voters-1992-2016/
Also explains why you only have a bunch of older white men sitting around making decisions in the Trump administration, or at least executive orders since they really can't get anything to pass of substance otherwise.
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Re: The Trump Administration
« Reply #340 on: June 22, 2017, 11:22:24 AM »
'Splain me dis Batman.... Why is it that in the demographic area I reside in.... almost EVERYONE who is on public assistance or a hand out program, shows up to vote DEM in most elections but especially the presidential?? Does that mean those who are in this category are...in your words..." College and post college educated as well as younger moving toward Democrats..." and THEY are the ones who demand the HANDOUTS?

And one thing I remember from my "60s" days...other than being drafted and working for a living, was the old saying..."ASS...GRASS...or GAS...nobody rides for free." Those OLD WHITE GUYS have went to college and/or OWN one...or they built corporations that employ those willing to WORK. I agree...not all are perfect but... without them... we may be in worse shape than we are now. Math teaches you that 20 workers do not, in themselves, make enough to take care of 200,000 dependents. (Just a word/number example but...)  Our population is about 320 million. As of 2012 (God knows what it is NOW) 109,631,000 were on welfare. The whole story is eye opening comparing those receiving funds here to the total population of...RUSSIA?

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/354-percent-109631000-welfare

My question would be, how many of those you deem Dems, are destined to be on welfare as well?

"I want my Student Loans paid for by the Government." or..."I want "FREE" College."  ::)
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Re: The Trump Administration
« Reply #341 on: June 22, 2017, 02:37:28 PM »
51% those quoted in your numbers on welfare are children who cannot work and if only one in the household receives benefits everyone in the house is considered to fall in the welfare category.  This list also includes 5% senior citizens over 65 and 28% of those on medicaid between the ages of 28 to 64 on this list actually work full time.  Stating this big number though brings fear in those that want to have fear and do not want to look into it any further. 

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jan/28/terry-jeffrey/are-there-more-welfare-recipients-us-full-time-wor/
College education expands one's horizons and brings more tolerance in my opinion as they more often work side by side with people outside their demographic vs. never leaving one's rural homestead and only hanging out with like minded individuals.  In many cases a college education forces many to move toward bigger cities and towns that have the job oppotunities they were trained for.  Often left behind in these rural areas are those that do not have this education.   And these larger cities and metropolitan areas vote more for Democrats than Republicans. Certainly it is not 100% but that is the trend.
And another perspective on welfare vs. party line:
https://trofire.com/2016/01/12/welfare-hypocrisy-red-states-are-the-real-freeloaders/


From what I have seen from Trump he believes in welfare as well, welfare for the rich...........

'Splain me dis Batman.... Why is it that in the demographic area I reside in.... almost EVERYONE who is on public assistance or a hand out program, shows up to vote DEM in most elections but especially the presidential?? Does that mean those who are in this category are...in your words..." College and post college educated as well as younger moving toward Democrats..." and THEY are the ones who demand the HANDOUTS?

And one thing I remember from my "60s" days...other than being drafted and working for a living, was the old saying..."ASS...GRASS...or GAS...nobody rides for free." Those OLD WHITE GUYS have went to college and/or OWN one...or they built corporations that employ those willing to WORK. I agree...not all are perfect but... without them... we may be in worse shape than we are now. Math teaches you that 20 workers do not, in themselves, make enough to take care of 200,000 dependents. (Just a word/number example but...)  Our population is about 320 million. As of 2012 (God knows what it is NOW) 109,631,000 were on welfare. The whole story is eye opening comparing those receiving funds here to the total population of...RUSSIA?

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/354-percent-109631000-welfare

My question would be, how many of those you deem Dems, are destined to be on welfare as well?

"I want my Student Loans paid for by the Government." or..."I want "FREE" College."  ::)
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Re: The Trump Administration
« Reply #342 on: June 22, 2017, 07:22:47 PM »
and 51% of the other side....ISN"T CHILDREN WHO CAN"T work??? and THEY DON'T HAVE ..... SENIOR CITIZENS who planned for their retirement or also are STILL working???
I know of single and double amputees who work full time as well as serve in some of the most strenuous jobs in our military. INFANTRY and even AIRBORNE for Christ's sake. To me ords make more invalids than actuals anymore.
For me... I am sick and tired of peeling off my nest egg to help those who "convinced" some liberal program..that they need to be given everything
I only feel this way because... I was raised by a Greek Immigrant who worked his ass off and never asked for anything but a job and now I live in a "Hood" loaded with Gimmees and Can'tdoos. Guess we agree to disagree...

51% those quoted in your numbers on welfare are children who cannot work and if only one in the household receives benefits everyone in the house is considered to fall in the welfare category.  This list also includes 5% senior citizens over 65 and 28% of those on medicaid between the ages of 28 to 64 on this list actually work full time.  Stating this big number though brings fear in those that want to have fear and do not want to look into it any further. 

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jan/28/terry-jeffrey/are-there-more-welfare-recipients-us-full-time-wor/
College education expands one's horizons and brings more tolerance in my opinion as they more often work side by side with people outside their demographic vs. never leaving one's rural homestead and only hanging out with like minded individuals.  In many cases a college education forces many to move toward bigger cities and towns that have the job oppotunities they were trained for.  Often left behind in these rural areas are those that do not have this education.   And these larger cities and metropolitan areas vote more for Democrats than Republicans. Certainly it is not 100% but that is the trend.
And another perspective on welfare vs. party line:
https://trofire.com/2016/01/12/welfare-hypocrisy-red-states-are-the-real-freeloaders/


From what I have seen from Trump he believes in welfare as well, welfare for the rich...........

'Splain me dis Batman.... Why is it that in the demographic area I reside in.... almost EVERYONE who is on public assistance or a hand out program, shows up to vote DEM in most elections but especially the presidential?? Does that mean those who are in this category are...in your words..." College and post college educated as well as younger moving toward Democrats..." and THEY are the ones who demand the HANDOUTS?

And one thing I remember from my "60s" days...other than being drafted and working for a living, was the old saying..."ASS...GRASS...or GAS...nobody rides for free." Those OLD WHITE GUYS have went to college and/or OWN one...or they built corporations that employ those willing to WORK. I agree...not all are perfect but... without them... we may be in worse shape than we are now. Math teaches you that 20 workers do not, in themselves, make enough to take care of 200,000 dependents. (Just a word/number example but...)  Our population is about 320 million. As of 2012 (God knows what it is NOW) 109,631,000 were on welfare. The whole story is eye opening comparing those receiving funds here to the total population of...RUSSIA?

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/354-percent-109631000-welfare

My question would be, how many of those you deem Dems, are destined to be on welfare as well?

"I want my Student Loans paid for by the Government." or..."I want "FREE" College."  ::)

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Re: The Trump Administration
« Reply #343 on: June 23, 2017, 09:42:48 AM »
I think we agree on one key thing no able-bodied citizen should get a free ride if they can work.  My point was the numbers are misleading, half children, 28% from age 28 to 65 are actually working full time, 5% over the age of 65.  The reality is though for the remaining millions who are not working there are not enough open jobs in the US to get them back to work with around 5M jobs open give or take right now, many of which require a specific technical know how or background.



and 51% of the other side....ISN"T CHILDREN WHO CAN"T work??? and THEY DON'T HAVE ..... SENIOR CITIZENS who planned for their retirement or also are STILL working???
I know of single and double amputees who work full time as well as serve in some of the most strenuous jobs in our military. INFANTRY and even AIRBORNE for Christ's sake. To me ords make more invalids than actuals anymore.
For me... I am sick and tired of peeling off my nest egg to help those who "convinced" some liberal program..that they need to be given everything
I only feel this way because... I was raised by a Greek Immigrant who worked his ass off and never asked for anything but a job and now I live in a "Hood" loaded with Gimmees and Can'tdoos. Guess we agree to disagree...

51% those quoted in your numbers on welfare are children who cannot work and if only one in the household receives benefits everyone in the house is considered to fall in the welfare category.  This list also includes 5% senior citizens over 65 and 28% of those on medicaid between the ages of 28 to 64 on this list actually work full time.  Stating this big number though brings fear in those that want to have fear and do not want to look into it any further. 

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jan/28/terry-jeffrey/are-there-more-welfare-recipients-us-full-time-wor/
College education expands one's horizons and brings more tolerance in my opinion as they more often work side by side with people outside their demographic vs. never leaving one's rural homestead and only hanging out with like minded individuals.  In many cases a college education forces many to move toward bigger cities and towns that have the job oppotunities they were trained for.  Often left behind in these rural areas are those that do not have this education.   And these larger cities and metropolitan areas vote more for Democrats than Republicans. Certainly it is not 100% but that is the trend.
And another perspective on welfare vs. party line:
https://trofire.com/2016/01/12/welfare-hypocrisy-red-states-are-the-real-freeloaders/


From what I have seen from Trump he believes in welfare as well, welfare for the rich...........

'Splain me dis Batman.... Why is it that in the demographic area I reside in.... almost EVERYONE who is on public assistance or a hand out program, shows up to vote DEM in most elections but especially the presidential?? Does that mean those who are in this category are...in your words..." College and post college educated as well as younger moving toward Democrats..." and THEY are the ones who demand the HANDOUTS?

And one thing I remember from my "60s" days...other than being drafted and working for a living, was the old saying..."ASS...GRASS...or GAS...nobody rides for free." Those OLD WHITE GUYS have went to college and/or OWN one...or they built corporations that employ those willing to WORK. I agree...not all are perfect but... without them... we may be in worse shape than we are now. Math teaches you that 20 workers do not, in themselves, make enough to take care of 200,000 dependents. (Just a word/number example but...)  Our population is about 320 million. As of 2012 (God knows what it is NOW) 109,631,000 were on welfare. The whole story is eye opening comparing those receiving funds here to the total population of...RUSSIA?

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/354-percent-109631000-welfare

My question would be, how many of those you deem Dems, are destined to be on welfare as well?

"I want my Student Loans paid for by the Government." or..."I want "FREE" College."  ::)


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Re: The Trump Administration
« Reply #344 on: June 23, 2017, 12:26:26 PM »
Hmmmm and yet we will continue to allow unbridled legal and illegal immigration to happen and then.... just what do you think happens to the HAND OUT Roles that we can't sustain ...even NOW. Lets see...not enough jobs for those we have already and we pour in more...nope...numbers don't work... Education must not be the answer as well or those who want to get the Tech jobs, would be flocking, drug free and without legal baggage to the doors to better themselves. Dude...you can't even give jobs away... We use to have a poster on the forums who talked of her husband who was a Head Hunter for the Fracking/Oil industry right here in PA. I did meet up with him. He had to go out east to recruit people. He interviewed hundreds and only 20 could pass the piss test or had clean driving records. These weren't shit jobs...starting at ...$1000..per WEEK. plus per diem, and housing...TO START. not counting overtime and shift differential... Some who made it into the jobs began with the $1000/week and some of those who stuck it out...were making 6 figures, last time I checked. Did they need college? No... did they bring a skill... not always... What they brought was the desire to work and learn so they could be a positive addition to society and make more $$$... without pounding drugs in themselves or breaking the law at the drop of the hat. Yup.... we need more people in the US who bring nothing to the table and continue to burden the system and we can't even care for those  who ARE leeches on the system already.... O1 visas aside I guess.

My son graduated from High School years ago. We had a talk.... He was already working for Giant Eagle in HS. I told him, if he wants to live here, he pays rent so he has to keep working. No rent if he went to college. He was smart... he went to work at Giant Eagle FULL TIME and... He went to college FULL TIME. So... no rent was paid and he is now close to retirement. I like to think I was part of his decision. Again... ASS, GRASS OR GAS..... ain't no free ride. The birds need pushed out of the nest in real life... sink or swim.

So your numbers don't seem to work for me as well and I bet for others in the forums.


I think we agree on one key thing no able-bodied citizen should get a free ride if they can work.  My point was the numbers are misleading, half children, 28% from age 28 to 65 are actually working full time, 5% over the age of 65.  The reality is though for the remaining millions who are not working there are not enough open jobs in the US to get them back to work with around 5M jobs open give or take right now, many of which require a specific technical know how or background.



and 51% of the other side....ISN"T CHILDREN WHO CAN"T work??? and THEY DON'T HAVE ..... SENIOR CITIZENS who planned for their retirement or also are STILL working???
I know of single and double amputees who work full time as well as serve in some of the most strenuous jobs in our military. INFANTRY and even AIRBORNE for Christ's sake. To me ords make more invalids than actuals anymore.
For me... I am sick and tired of peeling off my nest egg to help those who "convinced" some liberal program..that they need to be given everything
I only feel this way because... I was raised by a Greek Immigrant who worked his ass off and never asked for anything but a job and now I live in a "Hood" loaded with Gimmees and Can'tdoos. Guess we agree to disagree...

51% those quoted in your numbers on welfare are children who cannot work and if only one in the household receives benefits everyone in the house is considered to fall in the welfare category.  This list also includes 5% senior citizens over 65 and 28% of those on medicaid between the ages of 28 to 64 on this list actually work full time.  Stating this big number though brings fear in those that want to have fear and do not want to look into it any further. 

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jan/28/terry-jeffrey/are-there-more-welfare-recipients-us-full-time-wor/
College education expands one's horizons and brings more tolerance in my opinion as they more often work side by side with people outside their demographic vs. never leaving one's rural homestead and only hanging out with like minded individuals.  In many cases a college education forces many to move toward bigger cities and towns that have the job oppotunities they were trained for.  Often left behind in these rural areas are those that do not have this education.   And these larger cities and metropolitan areas vote more for Democrats than Republicans. Certainly it is not 100% but that is the trend.
And another perspective on welfare vs. party line:
https://trofire.com/2016/01/12/welfare-hypocrisy-red-states-are-the-real-freeloaders/


From what I have seen from Trump he believes in welfare as well, welfare for the rich...........

'Splain me dis Batman.... Why is it that in the demographic area I reside in.... almost EVERYONE who is on public assistance or a hand out program, shows up to vote DEM in most elections but especially the presidential?? Does that mean those who are in this category are...in your words..." College and post college educated as well as younger moving toward Democrats..." and THEY are the ones who demand the HANDOUTS?

And one thing I remember from my "60s" days...other than being drafted and working for a living, was the old saying..."ASS...GRASS...or GAS...nobody rides for free." Those OLD WHITE GUYS have went to college and/or OWN one...or they built corporations that employ those willing to WORK. I agree...not all are perfect but... without them... we may be in worse shape than we are now. Math teaches you that 20 workers do not, in themselves, make enough to take care of 200,000 dependents. (Just a word/number example but...)  Our population is about 320 million. As of 2012 (God knows what it is NOW) 109,631,000 were on welfare. The whole story is eye opening comparing those receiving funds here to the total population of...RUSSIA?

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/354-percent-109631000-welfare

My question would be, how many of those you deem Dems, are destined to be on welfare as well?

"I want my Student Loans paid for by the Government." or..."I want "FREE" College."  ::)



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