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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2012, 11:13:16 PM »
The discussion in 2008 was to get the troops out of Afghanistan, not end the war. The war on terror is ongoing, but the major policy change was to end massive and costly deployment of huge numbers of troops, and move the war to a special ops, PGM, electronics type of war. Where speed/flexibility is more important that numbers
The use of drones , especially armed ones is a major component of that strategy. Troop withdrawals, does not mean you discontinue the use of drones., in fact, in the new policy it means the opposite.
Like manned bombers used in combat, the operators of the drones would have a bomb/target list, constantly updated based on a lot of factors including intelligence.The fact that drones have been used largly used to target individual enemies is just an extension of the assets of the drones themselves and the capabilities on PGM's. That there is a target list has been know since the 1st armed drone was deployed and is called the Integrated Priority Target List.
I suspect this new discussion of the hit list has nothing to do with Afghanistan, but more likely a message to Pres. Assad, that he may/is on that list.   
Janes Defence has been writing about this since the 90's, and is a leading source of info on this system.        http://www.ihs.com/search.aspx?globalsearchinput=drones&x=0&y=0
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2012, 11:17:58 PM »
Lots of 'collateral damage' with drones.

It's easier to accept when you put it that way . . . 'innocent people' is too emotionally charged.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2012, 11:22:56 PM »
Less than WWII bombers. Less that Planes into the WTC. War is messy. Lot less so that before, and a lot less so than what our enemies do.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2012, 07:27:04 AM »
In all armed conflicts... one rule remains the same.... you can have all the technology in the world but... in the end, the mission needs boots on the ground in one way shape or form. So... you need humans to accurately pinpoint, and paint a target in order to keep the damage focused on the target as much as possible. In Desert Storm, we had Spec Ops actually living in the desert... some solo in foxholes, who kept covert track of enemy movement and actions. They were in place almost 6 month or more, prior to the official start in Jan 1991. Prior to that, team went in covertly and buried stockpiles of supplies at various points in the outlying desert areas to be used when those covert operations began.
 
So we can play with these "Nintendo" Beasts all we want but fact remains... they cannot do the complete tasks themselves from a control panel 10,000 miles away.
 
You cannot rely on a set of coordinates and continue to unleash firepower without the human senses... It causes problems in the outcome not only with innocents but with the operators of the equipment. Many pilots during WWI, WWII and even the later conflicts... never actually saw the damages that they caused by just hitting a button and dropping the bombs from their planes.... But some that were shot down and captured had epiphanies upon finally seeing the damages at ground level. There had been reports that it was so devisating to some of them, that they took their own lives later. War is not a game... to be played solely with technology. you have to involve the human factor..at one level or another... We will always need "boots on the ground" to do the job as "correct" as possible.
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Re: Election 2012
« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2012, 10:07:41 PM »
For those of you that may care. Not that I want to drive the 10 drops of traffic left here somewhere else, but it may be worth checking out. It looks to be brand new as well.

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